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Berkut
Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 435
Message Number 1
Date Posted: 18 April 2005, 3:42:59 PM

Ukraine is getting ready for Nato witch one would be the best.



f_14_tomcat
Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 485
Message Number 2
Date Posted: 30 April 2005, 9:07:20 PM

the rafale is in the same boat as the eurofighter so it would be the best i think although the f/a-18 would probably come with more logistics



su-37
Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 487
Message Number 3
Date Posted: 01 May 2005, 11:58:55 AM

What about Saab,it is much more cheaper.Has helment sight comparable to mig's.



Berkut
Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 504
Message Number 4
Date Posted: 05 May 2005, 3:04:38 PM

I guess the best pick would be Rafael it is much more capable aircraft and has a better arsenal than any other.



baritone89
Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 569
Message Number 5
Date Posted: 12 June 2005, 2:45:35 PM

The f-18 is a good multi purpose aircraft. It can carry anything in the US Navy arsenal and none of it's fighter abilities are comprimised.



f_14_tomcat
Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 703
Message Number 6
Date Posted: 03 July 2005, 2:12:06 AM

yeh but the gripen can outmanuevre any variant of the f/a-18 hornet including the super hornets



baritone89
Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 712
Message Number 7
Date Posted: 04 July 2005, 2:01:47 AM

Just depends on what ur looking for. For straight multi purpose, i'll take the hornet but i'll take the gripen for air superiority.



f_14_tomcat
Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 717
Message Number 8
Date Posted: 08 July 2005, 4:55:31 AM

i'll take the rafale for airsuperiority because the gripen doesnt have the legs to stay on station for long enough



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Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 1384
Message Number 9
Date Posted: 19 August 2007, 2:55:48 PM

that's a toughy, F-18 is a good plane (E/A-18 even better in my view), and the rafale is better than the gripen, but depends who's flying.



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Subject: Dassault Rafale vs JAS 39 Gripen vs F-18 Hornet ??
Post ID# 1407
Message Number 10
Date Posted: 12 September 2007, 5:04:32 AM

Anyway, in a 1v1 wvr the gripen proved equal to the f18's of finland(gripenpilots claimed they were slightly superior at most altitudes but they would say that, woudnt they? anyway, depends on rules of the excersises), bwr the gripen proved devastatingly superior. I expect the rafaele will repeat that and then some. Does this mean that the raf is no1, gripen no2 and f18 no3? Hell no! They have different roles and functions and pricetags and 1v1 should result in a courtmartial for the criminally incompetent pilot putting himself in such a position anyway.

The gripen was built to a very specific design specification of being small, defensive fighter that conformed to the swedish defencedoctrine(stol, ease of maintenence, ruggedness etc) mainly anti airsuperiority, some antiground, more antishipping. As such its a very neat design with its own tactical capabilities and great lifecycle cost and outstanding airhours per maintenencehour. Somewhat short legs and limited payload make it a poor powerprojection aircraft however. SAAF is what I understand planning on always setting up forward bases when they employ it on expeditions. Maybe they can 'hack' good powerprojection out of the gripen with its stol and ruggedness(africa is big so slightly longer legs wouldnt solve the problem). Still wont be much of a mudmover.

The rafaele seems designed to be more of a generalised kickass fighter that is meant to be somewhat cheaper than the typhoon etc. Wether this is successfull or not is not for me to say. Its still kindof new, aint it?

F18, dont know too much about it but seems to be less comparable than the other two with twin engines and vastly greater size. I just generally find it hard to believe the US would build a sucky aircraft and keep investing in it.


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