I agree french are annoying take the concorde program for example they did lots of speechs and hype but we were doing most of the work and then they said we must have first flight

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'The distant flash of lightning howling through the thunder' ex RAF ligthning pilot recalling lightning of 1973 through thunder

what happen was that when the bomb doors opened the f117 lost its stealth and was immediately locked on by SAM controllers who fired and bang. thats how it happened

hey herc boy are you planning for Australia to buy su 37s from russia? o by the way i think every country should design planes if they can afford it. o and remember the ef 2000 thing? ya france is kinda greedy

This is the problem with stealth aircraft as soon as they go to launch weapons or fire weapons they lose radar cover or if its raining they have no stealth capabilitys which is a problem which renders them useless as all weather fighters or bomber as there main survival technique is stealth and most stealth aircraft are built with stealth as top priority so they probably arent very manouverable (f22 excluded) so they'd get shot down in seconds if it was raining and as for the f117 that got shot down ive been told by a friend who was a ex f117 pilot that your told to unload ordance quickly so they are told to close bomb doors as soon as they have launched there ordnance.

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'The distant flash of lightning howling through the thunder' ex RAF ligthning pilot recalling lightning of 1973 through thunder

Not true, fighters fly well above the clouds that produce rain, they can still be a fairly all weather fighter, just not nessiciarily all altitude all the time...........but who dog fights below angels 10 anyway?